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04/02/21 08:01 AM #308    

Hansang Bae (1984)

David, look at the statistics. Most crimes are within the race. Asians attact Asians and white to white, Hispanic to Hispanics and black to black. Those are plain facts. Also, you talk about rhetoric but wrote "whitesplaining"? Could you post such a racist comment about any other race?

What if I said I was triggered by your micro aggression towards a race? Will you do some "introspetcting"

BTW, I'm not triggered by words from random people online so no apology is necessary.I also believe that the 1st amendment is sacrosanct. That's also why I served. But one can still be respectful to others. It's why I'm disagreeing with you but not calling you names. You are entitled to your opinion, but I can still call out inherent fault in your logic.


For the most part military and military families are the most accommodating about race. Even in the early 80's mixed race couples (whitr/black) were not uncommon We don't have turn this into a political slugfest that befell America-like calling someone delusional

Typed on my phone so excuse the typos .

04/02/21 08:19 AM #309    

 

Joe Holcombe (1967)

The decade of the '60 will have it's 12th reunion in California. It will be close enough to San Francisco to have day trips and walk the Golden Gate Bridge and have lunch at the "Dock of the Bay". I lived in the closest house to the bridge for five years.


04/02/21 09:19 AM #310    

Spider Jennings (1968)

Looks like there is a 60's reunion being planned in California. Can some one send me details? TIA

 

 


04/02/21 11:18 AM #311    

Stan Lobdell (1977)

Hunsang,
 
You are a very wise person.
 
Unfortunately, some do not respect individuality and prefer to place people into groups.  I am multiracial and multicultural.  According to the media, different aspects of me are being discriminated against in one manner or another for different reasons.  It would be very confusing if I didn't dismiss it all as propaganda.  It would be nice if people treated me for who I am rather than for a tribe to which they presume I belong.  Fortunately, most do.
 
Be kind to your neighbor, and hopefully, they'll do the same.
 
Love to all my SAHS brothers and sisters,
Stan Lobdell ('77)

04/02/21 11:23 AM #312    

Jameson Ewigleben (2001)

You ignorant older people disgust me.There is a reason I never joined the military and distanced myself from it as an adult.I hope your children are better than you.

04/02/21 01:45 PM #313    

Darren Zimmer (1980)

James,

As a fellow Falcon, I hope your maturing process is not a painful one.   Unfortunately, one of the of the most endearing qualities that we lose with our youth is our illusions.  When we align our personality too closely with them, it's a painful separation when it happens.   Fortunalty, this forum is filled with many 'Older People' who would only be too happy to help you through it.

Best of Luck to you.

Go Falcons

Darren


04/02/21 03:40 PM #314    

 

Christina Blastos (1983)

Bravo you guys! You get it. I agree with you 100%. 
The ones who disagree... talk to us in 20 years lol


04/02/21 04:03 PM #315    

 

Buddy Wootten (1967)

Hey Joe Holcomb, 

Do you have any details on the 60's reunion in California?

 Thanks 

 


04/02/21 06:32 PM #316    

 

Joan Tipka (Fisher) (1982)

Jameson Ewigleben 

I am one of those older people who happened to join the military for 20 years.  Why do you have so much anger? What do you have against me? I am curious as you posted a blanketed statement.


04/02/21 08:41 PM #317    

Pamela Sands (1968)

Joe Holcombe, that is exciting news, look forward to seeing details as it comes together. The only time I've spent time there on my way to and from Korea. I know it would be great for our West Coast classmates!


04/03/21 06:10 AM #318    

Bill Everson (1967)

I would just like to caution everyone about political commentary on this forum. Nothing's going to get settled....nothing.....and the risk of permanently damaging the forum high.
This is a cohort of alums sharing very unique experiences....would much prefer to stick to that for subject matter. Save the politics for in person discussion where mutual understanding can occur....

04/03/21 09:25 AM #319    

 

Dennis Martin (1979)

Just popping in to say hello to fellow SAHS alumni and thank those who are civil, intelligent, and eloquent in their discourse. Like most train wrecks, I've had to watch as these posts get sent to my email box and I can only delete without review so many times before I had to start following. Thank goodness for the old folks...they carry on the Falcon spirit old school style.

SAHS Forever, Class of '79.

04/03/21 10:17 AM #320    

 

Patrick Camblin (1974)

Jameson Ewigleben, just... Wow. So sorry for your misery. Life must be tough with older people in the world.  Have you ever thought of looking past your own nose though, and considering that you too might become one some lucky day?


04/04/21 10:08 AM #321    

Nancy McDermott (1981)

 

There is definitely something generational at work in this discussion. Just speaking for myself, I found my time at SAHS incredibly inspiring. Being in a small American community tended to breakdown racial and ethnic barriers that were very much still in place stateside. I remember moving back to the US and seeing them go up again. All of a sudden it wasn't as easy to spend time (with black friends especially) or to make black friends  because we landed in separate worlds. But it still gave me hope that those barriers can be overcome, and really reinforced my belief in he importance of good faith. 

I believe that we have undergone a sea change since the 70's (and if any classmates are interested I've just had a book about its impact on families, it's called The Problem with Parenting and it's on Amazon) that has people focusing inward on themselves to find their way in life instead of focusing more outwardly in the sense of becoming who you are through your relationships with and obligations to other people. And it is because of that shift that people born after the 70's tend to assume the worst and to sometimes to be a bit cynical. It is a form of self protection that has the unfortunate consequence of confining people to their comfort zone.

The way I look at it, we need to give one another the benefit of the doubt and to be extra vigilant about being tolerant, even when other people assume the worst of you. 

Our time in Seoul and our time as brats more generally was a precious gift. We were forced by circumstances to learn to see people as human beings first and members of groups second. Obviously not everyone took that lesson but for those of us who have, I think we have some obligation to counter the cynicism about race with the examples of our own lives and through continuing to measure people by what they do, and how they treat other people in life and also in online forums. I didn't have the opportunity to meet most of you (I was 76-78) but we share a bond, nevertheless. Let's not assume the worst and let's not let the bad faith that is tearing at the fiber of our country tear us apart too. 
 

Best wishes,

 

Nancy

Seoul 76-78

Class of "81"

 


 

 

 


04/04/21 11:14 AM #322    

 

Christina Blastos (1983)

Brilliant commentary Nancy. What a grand opportunity we had. 
I'm so thankful that I am a SAHS alumni and KNOW unity on a very real level.

it DOES exist. If people look hard enough they can always always find things to hyperfocus on, complain about and vilify.  No one needs to "own" an accusation that they personally are not responsible for and all this blame game rhetoric has worn out its welcome mat. 

It indeed is a mindset.  Congratulations on your book. Will need to look on Amazon 

For it.

 


04/04/21 03:31 PM #323    

Keith Hodges (1967)

From Kelly Bonine (Hall) ’89, administrator for www.sahs-reunion.com.

The forum has recently seen several posts on political and social media topics. I ask that such posts be discontinued and that forum posts be limited and focused on only our SAHS memories, military and overseas Brat life, reunions past and future, and our having lived together in Korea. Newsworthy stories about Korea too would be appropriate. This preference will encourage more posting, and less distraction from why SAHS-Reunion.com exists.

Of course political and social issues are important and if you want to post them, please use social media sites such as FaceBook, twitter and the like.

We are, of course, genuinely and legitimately concerned about what is an ever increasing number of acts of anti-Asian violence. This disturbs SAHS Brats, more than many others,  because many of us are Asian, have close Asian friends and classmates, and/or have fond memories of our time in Korea. Those feelings are certainly part of the SAHS experience, but please try to discuss it without politics or political purpose.

If you have concerns this goal is ill-advised, please email my co-administrator keith.hodges@comcast.net Class of ‘67. He will collect comments and report back to us.

 

 


 


04/05/21 12:59 AM #324    

Hosun Chang (1980)

David Werho, I know exactly what you are talking about.

Thank you for having courage to say what isn't going to be well received by many.

 

 


04/05/21 09:00 AM #325    

David Werho (2000)

I agree with all those who say that this is no place for political discussions. My post was simply stating that the prior posts were hurtful and minimizing to many people in our SAHS community and I hope that folks have some introspection about such things. Please be thoughtful of how your words impact people who are living in a world where they don't always feel as safe as you. Personally, I miss the years at SAHS and look back fondly on living in Seoul, but I can also recognize that SAHS was a different world than the high school experience that many kids have to endure today. Sure, it wasn't perfect, but there was a level of openness and safety that isn't the norm in most other places. All we can do is hope and be thoughtful of how we affect the world around us. 


04/05/21 10:22 AM #326    

James (Jim) Faulconer (1965)

Thank you, Keith. I was beginning to think I might have to unsubscribe. 


04/05/21 06:58 PM #327    

Leo Jung (2002)

David, I understand what you meant and agree with your statement. I don't believe the prior comments were meant to hurt anyone but everyone's experiences are different and therefore their opinions will differ.

Just the other day my Korean American buddy who was medically discharged from the army after being blown up by an IED was shopping at a busy retail store with his wife and kid when a random white person yells out "go back to your asian country with your kungflu". No one corrected that person. I know it's only a few rotten apples out of the whole community, but still I don't imagine a white person having to deal with the same kind of hatred. Imagine the anxiety of going to public places worried someone might say or do something hateful. Even if unlikely... it still happens. That's not how anyone should have to live in the usa.

Yes historically there are less asian hate crimes than within other ethnic groups but you can't deny its exponentially increasing due to a our own leaders spreading asian hate. If we do nothing it will only get worse. There is nothing wrong with spreading awareness.

04/05/21 09:42 PM #328    

Young Do Kim (1984)

SAHS was color blind. We all knew why we were there.The age of innocence!!

04/06/21 11:33 AM #329    

 

Christina Blastos (1983)

@young - Yes!


04/11/21 11:41 AM #330    

Keith Hodges (1967)

Mark Church (SAHS '72) died suddenly and unexpectedly in his home in Columbia, Md, March 18, 2021. He and his sisters [Kathy Church-Jordan - '66, Lin Church - '69, and Susi Church - '71] lived on Yongsan from Spring 1962 to Summer 1969. He had just completed his freshman year at SAHS when the family returned stateside, yet was already well-recognized for his prowess in baseball. He served in the US Navy; and worked in the printing industry before an automobile accident caused a permanent disability. He is survived by his remaining sisters, adult son Justin (Christina), and adult daughter Victoria and grandson Andrew. 


Mark’s name has been added to the In Memory page at www.sahs-reunion.com. If you would like to post a comment or memory, here is the link.
http://www.sahs-reunion.com/class_profile.cfm?member_id=8947979


04/11/21 11:50 AM #331    

Keith Hodges (1967)

Mark’s name has been added to the In Memory page at www.sahs-reunion.com. If you would like to post a comment or memory, here is the link.
http://www.sahs-reunion.com/class_profile.cfm?member_id=3220142

 


04/11/21 04:27 PM #332    

 

Gerald Braley (1961)

I have moved to Brunswick, Georgia 31523, and can't figure out how to change my residence in the profile.  I moved in April 2020 to be closer to Mayo hospital for heart surgery.  I went to a mechanic and asked for a valve job and two hoses patched but he wouldn't do it.  To bad, it would have been a lot cheaper.  I'm only 99.98% human now since my new valve is bovine.  The surgery was postponed a month due to Covid requirement that the surgery be "essential".  Apparently, my definition of "essential" differed from theirs.  Anyway, I seem to have recovered well, with the "I'm getting old aches and pains" still hanging around to remind that the clock didn't stop ticking for the 6 hours I was in surgery.  The folks at Mayo were top notch by anyone's definition.  Oh, we live near the coast (Jekyll and St Simons Islands are the nearest beaches), have pond in the back yard that seems to have a resident alligator.


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