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01/25/15 05:25 AM #83    

Susan Scott (Weinsheimer) (1962)

I remember Miss Sundean well. She told me that i was wasting my time with Ken that he was not good enough for me - wished i listened to her.


01/25/15 05:27 AM #84    

Susan Scott (Weinsheimer) (1962)

Joe - Ted Green has pix that weren't put in out 1961 yearbook - did you see his message? can you help him? thanx 


01/25/15 05:28 AM #85    

Susan Scott (Weinsheimer) (1962)

Maybe you remember that one prom or dance night you stayed with me so you could attend. Sue Scott kraft weinsheimer etc


01/25/15 02:57 PM #86    

Keith Hodges (1967)

For those planning reunions - sahs-reunion.com can assist with sending out emails targetted to specific classes and posting banners on the home page,


01/25/15 07:00 PM #87    

Kenneth Ames (1961)

Re Various posts - I do remember Ms. Sundean, although I thought she was Miss Sunbeam which made me think of the small British sports car.I was detailed to follow Pearl Buck around as Year Book photographer and was, at the ripe age of 14 or 15, shocked that so famous a person could be so unpleasant. Somehow I missed Danny Kaye. I also recall trips to the country side, in one of which an elderly Korean woman tried to tear out Linda Matheny's blond hair to test whether it was real. My two years in Korea were "life changing" whatever that means. I am enjoying these posts.

Ken Ames


01/26/15 07:16 AM #88    

Cindy Shaw (1964)

A shout out to Jan Burgess Brats whose descriptive post of a while ago I just re-read. Long-forgotten fabulous memories flood back of that country and it's people. The images down to the children in their split-seat pants and men in Papasan outfits, etc. all clear as bells. Thanks!

01/27/15 07:55 AM #89    

Ted Green (1962)

OK I loooked up Miss (Carol I.)  Dundean in the '61 yearbook. There was a rumor that she had been a warden in a women's prison before SAHS, but that seems to have been an urban myth. She is listed as having a MS degree from Syracuse, Anyway, she hated me. Can't blame her. One day my friends and I convinced a waiter at the NCO club make us a beer milkshake for lunch. So of course I was sleepier than usual during my first afternoon class, which was with Ms. Sundean. I remember soon getting sleepy, so I wrapped my body in what I thought was a thoughtful postion, closed my eyes & drfted off...only to wake up when I tilted over and fell on the floor with a crash-bang. I was sent forthwith to Mr Martin, who was tired of seeing me.

Have I posted my story about Mr Hervy? He was a good guy and i tried to send this story to him before he died. I think I just missed him, by a month.


01/27/15 08:03 AM #90    

Ted Green (1962)

Here is the autobioghapical story I worte about My Hervey. The kid referred to at the end is (The Rev.) Arthur Lee. Someone tell me how to upload photos and i will post te pic Arthus sent me of the events desribed here. 

"The Worst Kid in American History"

 This is a true confessional tale about how the nastiest kid in a high school American history class—who was also the worst student academically—nevertheless learned a great deal of history because of a certain teacher. I was that kid back in 1961, a time when the roles available in high school were pretty much limited to squares, nerds, jocks and hoodlums. I was a hood with an Elvis haircut, black leather jacket, and a curled-lip, menacing sneer which I perfected in front of the mirror. It mattered little that this school happened to be in Seoul, Korea, and it was for army brats. We were as American in our school culture as anyone in, well, Tecumseh, Nebraska.

That happens to be where my teacher, Mr. William D. Hervey was from. I see in my 1961 yearbook that he graduated from a place called Peru State Teachers College, also in Nebraska. He was a fair-haired, 30-something, well-meaning man whom I nevertheless resented as an authority figure. I paid no attention in class, or so I thought, and I remember passing the time dozing off the previous night’s hangover or writing suggestive notes to some of the sexier girls in class, especially those brimming with school spirit who were completely out of reach of low-lifes like myself.

Mr. Hervey began each class by reviewing the daily cartoon strip Peanuts. “What a totally pathetic attempt to ingratiate himself to the class,” I sneered to fellow hoodlum Wayne. Wayne was actually meant to be a jock—he was on varsity football after all--but I took him with me to the bars and off-limits neighborhoods of Seoul and before long, he was an anti-social, fellow miscreant, becoming my best friend in the 10th grade.

Mr. Hervey was an animated teacher. He paced, he waved his arms, his voice rose and fell, and he generally bounced around the room, which behavior I remember was quite distracting and disturbing to a student committed to dozing.

One day we had a surprise quiz. Mr. H. handed out a page of test questions and told us that he’d leave us alone for the next 20 minutes while we wrote the answers. About 5 minutes into the test, my eyes drifted over to the busily writing nerd to my right. I hadn’t meant to exactly cheat, but somehow my eyes just went of their own accord to the test paper next to me.

Suddenly, Mr. Hervey came charging into the room from the back door and announced that he’d caught me cheating, red-handed! I immediately put on a great show of shock and indignation. Me? How dare this wimp of a man accuse me of cheating? So I said, “If you think I’m a cheater, why don’t you and I just step outside and we can settle this like men?”

This was proposed in my most menacing voice, also probably rehearsed in front of a mirror. I somehow knew that Mr. Hervey had been a nerd back in his own school days in Nowhere, Nebraska, and certainly not the kind of guy to get into a fist fight with the likes of me at age 16.

It seemed like no one breathed for a few minutes. I knew I had him!

Mr. Hervey ended up backing down and not really doing anything about the cheating accusation. I should have felt triumphant but I actually felt ashamed of myself, sorry about the whole situation. I sensed this might be the low point of my secondary school career.

Now we fast-forward a few weeks. I was in the high school rock-‘n-roll band and we were called The Silvertones after my cheap, brown, Sears & Roebuck, solid-bodied, Silvertone electric guitar. We were performing at our first high school dance, and we started off with the then-famous Champs instrumental, Tequila. During the break after our first set, Mr. Hervey, who I guess was there as some sort of chaperone, came up to me and quietly asked if we could play Tequila a second time and this time he could join us, because as a matter of fact, he had his tenor sax in the trunk of his car.

I was surprised this man would even talk to me. I mean, what if I had said no and sneered at him? What could he have done?  But I consulted the band and they thought it was a pretty cool idea, and so we performed Tequila, but this time with the great sax part heard on the Champs’ recording. Mr. H knew his rock ‘n roll.

One night Wayne and I were having a late-night beer and our last cigarette under the stars, at a baseball field at the American army base in Teagu. Wayne looked up at the sky and had an inspiration: “Why don’t we dedicate our lives to science?” I didn’t know what that really meant but it sounded noble and self-sacrificing. I might mention this to Judi the luscious cheerleader I wanted to impress.

So I agreed, but with the provision that we not tell anyone, in case we don’t in fact go on to dedicate our lives to science.

We left Korea at different times and Wayne went on to get a PhD. in geology and I earned my PhD in anthropology, to the great relief of both our anxious mothers. Mine had been reminding me during high school on nearly a daily basis that I would end up as a "perpetual private" in the Army-- "at best"-since to be an officer, I'd have to have gone to college. And then there was that business about me being kicked out of school in the US, prior to my hasty exile to Korea. My mother reminded me, "Expelled boys can never become officers!" I guess I half-believed her.


Now here’s the funny part. In the years since high school, whenever something related to American history comes up, I find I have vivid memories of Mr. Hervey explaining, dramatizing, acting out, romancing some particular chapter of American history. For example, as the world slides deeper into global economic recession, so many details of FDR's depression-busting programs come to mind, along with visions of giant locusts gobbling up crops ...the Oklahoma Dust Bowl hobos riding the rails and living in Hoovervilles… FDR's fireside chats, Woodie Guthrie capturing the zeitgeist in his ballads… 8 million jobs created through the WPA...and somehow in my mind, Mr. Hervey still dances excitedly around all this pageantry. And these memories of history and Hervey never dim with the passing of years.


About a dozen 10 years ago, when search engines were first becoming powerful, I tried to see if Mr. Hervey was still alive. I wanted to apologize for my rotten behavior and to thank him for putting up with me and for teaching me so much valuable history in spite of my recalcitrance. A few years ago, I noticed in my yearbook that he had signed it: "William 'Tecumseh' 'Uncle Fred' Hervey." (Did his peers call him Fred?).

But I never found Mr. Hervey. I suppose he’s no longer among the living. But perhaps some descendant in Tecumseh, Neb. will read this and know that Mr Hervey made a deep impression on someone. If I, the worst kid in American history, learned so much, I can only imagine the overflowing memories of other students in class, especially those who listened and did homework.

I sent this story around via e-mail to several old classmates from that school in Korea and it turned out that somebody had taken this picture of Mr H. joining me with his tenor sax when we played Tequila that night in 1961. I was beginning to wonder if that event really happened. After all, it was all so long ago.


01/27/15 09:18 PM #91    

Michael O'Brien

Ted, I arrived at Seoul American High School in August of '63 at the first DoD art teacher in Korea. I was an Iowa farm boy and in '68 I married a '63 first year teacher from Maine, Arline J. Monroe.  We were married in Korea, our son Sean M. O'Brien was born there in March of '75 and graduated from SAHS in '93. Arline and I retired from SAHS in June of '97 after 34 years at SAHS!  SAHS was a wonderful school and the kids were great.  Not the Brats they are often called. 

From your writing it sounds like you were a dorm student.  Were you?  Who what your dorm supervisor? Joe Crosswell?  He passed away a few years ago. 

I ended up being a dorm supervisor, too, until the dorms moved to Pusan at the end of '67.  

Michael 


01/28/15 05:27 AM #92    

Ted Green (1962)

Michael, I remember Joe Crosswell quite well, altho i was not a dorm kid or an athlete. My dad was DCM (#2) in the US embassy ("Megook Tasegwan," as we told taxi drivers), and then Charge  D'Affaires when Pak Chung Hee came to power.

Mr Martin the principal wrote in my 1962 year book "Where did all the potential go?" He and Mr Hervey might be happy to learn that I ended up on the faculty of Harvard (school of public health), for 9 years. Anyway, I look back on my SAHS years with fondness.

I have asked in this forum how one uploads & displays photos. Did you know? I am not very tech savvy. I'd like to  display that pic of Mr Hervey blowing sax with our band, at the HS auditorium dance.


01/28/15 06:40 AM #93    

David Baldwin (1961)

I guess Miss Dundeen came after the class of '61 moved along...?  Ted and Michael, this is another Maine Connection.  Where in Maine is your wife from, Michael?  Ted summers on Kittery Point and I am a native Mainer living on the Downeast coast.  Mr. Smith (English) was from South Brooksville and taught in Ellsworth before venturing to Seoul. 

As for Mr. Crosswell....  ' knew him quite well.  I had several very good friends that were dorm students from both Pusan and Tague.  As a matter of fact, Ted, you will recall our drummer (Eddie Jones) was from Pusan.  Eddie and I used to stay at each others home very often.... Sue (Scott) gotta remember all of this...?  To Pusan for music and bird hunting.... We even did a gig or two at the Officer's Club in Tague during the summer of 1960.  That's when the band was out and about quite a bit.  The overnight train rides to Pusan were quite the party!!!!...?  Eddie and I used to give the engineer a pack of cigaretts and would ride the locomotive cab for a couple hours!

I did not realize that Mr. (Jim) Martin was not a favorite of yours, Ted....? I always liked him and we got along very well.   Until.......... I recall when I returned to Seoul in '63 and worked for the Embassy, that I had a run in with him.  One of the senior girls invited me to a big dance at SAHS.  Upon arrival at the school we were greeted at the door by Mr. Martin and informed that only SAHS students could enter...!  That was that!  So we went downtown, walked around and managed to find a nice club that had music, dancing, and beer.

 

 


01/28/15 08:14 PM #94    

 

Lon Burba (1967)

Hey Ted, to post a picture you simply click the little icon second from the the top left.  Looks like a post card.  A pop up will appear.  Then click the BROWSE button that will help you scan your computer for the picture file you want to add.  Then click the upload button and you're finished.  Here's a picture of the girl I took to the prom at SAHS. smiley  

            


01/29/15 05:46 AM #95    

Susan Scott (Weinsheimer) (1962)

Mr Hervey once gave me a huge screw (not a nail a screw) one morning. he smirked and said something objectionable. not the only time he harassed? me. I tought Ms Sundean had some kind of a military position before SAHS. and i do remember the train to pusan

 

 

 


01/30/15 07:14 AM #96    

Dale Haddock (1965)

Hi,

My Name is Dale Haddock(Blue Jay) Class of 1965.I was a Dorm Student from Pusan 1963-64. When did the Dorm Close?? I lived in  the Huts in 1963.In 64 we moved across  the street from the Old SAHS in 2 Buildings Left was Girls Dorm,Right Building was the Boys Dorm. The Huts were turned into Classrooms. It would be SO NICE to hear from my fellow Dorm Friends and the Seoul SAHS Students that may have knew me. Hope to hear from SOMEONE!!! 


01/30/15 05:16 PM #97    

 

Lon Burba (1967)

Hi Dale, I may have known you but I'm a lot younger than you....class of 67.  Post a picture so I can remember.  As Bob Dylan would say "....I was so much older then I'm younger than that now."


01/30/15 06:17 PM #98    

 

Lynne Thompson (Brown) (1963)

Lynne Thompson Brown

I finally found some time to sit down and read all these wonderful memories and I just had to toss in mine. Ted and Dave, I remember you both (and Eddie Jones, too) but I think I was always a little intimidated by the BMOC senior boys when I was a sophomore. I, too, remember Mr. Hervey and his world history class ("His Story") which must have made a bigger impression than I realized because I went on to major in history at UCSB. Mr. Paddock had a bigger influence, though, as he not only taught history but was our junior class advisor and prom advisor when we put on Harbor Lights and made life size papier-maché sea gulls. My family even traveled in Japan with him. James Smith, our English teacher, left a life-long impression on me. Even though I hated writing all the papers and giving speeches every other week, I got pretty good at it and really appreciated his discipline when I got to college. I definitely remember Miss Sundean and vague rumors of her being a warden which probably stemmed from her being such a task master in math and science class but I worked hard for her and learned alot. The comments about "experiments" in Miss Mildred "Poopsie" Shaver's chemistry class really bring back funny memories. I can't believe we got away with all that! No one has mentioned the Latin banquets--am I the only one traumatized by being a slave 2 years? On the social side I have fond memories of AFKN television station and Teen Canteen (our version of American Bandstand) with Diane Hutchison, Cindy Shaw, Sherry Pressey, Laura Bass, Don Ranard, Moon Mullins, Bill Smothers, T-Bow White, Paul Bekman, Hunter Hoagland, Bob Broaddus, and so many others. Cheerleading both at SAHS and for the Loggers football team with Sue Scott, Carol Muir, Judi Anglemyer, and Candy Robbins was fun and brought some very special memories as we travelled outside Seoul and met locals and sang with the children. I had totally forgotten the orphanage visits until reading this, maybe because it was so sad to me. I do remember now trying to get my parents to adopt some of these "cute" children. Ice skating brings back very special memories teaching Korean students who only had hockey skates and were very uncomfortable holding hands while skating. We even went down to the ice rink at lunch time during the school day. One of my favorite memories is horseback riding at the police stables and race track and the tough Mongolian ponies that would head back for home through the rice paddy in the middle of the track. Our quonset hut Teen Club was great, too--I learned to play hearts which came in handy learning bridge in college. And then there was our bowling league . . . The slumber parties and sneaking out at night to have just a bit more time to hang out together (bribing guards with cigarettes) are just a few more special memories. On the serious side, I, too, remember the coups and having tracer bullets in our quarter's roof. A visit to the DMZ and having the North Korean guards spit on our shoes and release birds that only landed on their roofs, proving they were the better people is still a vivid picture. The student riots in spring of 1962 kept some of us down in Pusan and Chinhae a few days longer and we were escorted home in MP jeeps with armed guards when we arrived back at Seoul's train station. And yes, I do remember those train rides to Taegu and Pusan to visit dorm students' families (the soot on faces if we forgot to close the windows in a tunnel!). Jerry Braley asked about some of the ships. We sailed from San Francisco on the USNS General Sultan and then to Japan on the USNS General Mitchell. That was always a fun adventure and it was wonderful to get REAL milk, not the powdered, reconstituted stuff we had in Korea. And the water tasted so much better when it didn't come from the large metal cans. My two years in Korea (1960-1962) changed my life very much for the better. What I thought would be a horrible experience proved to be incredible. I fell in love with Asian culture and history, not to mention the people and food. It whet my appetite for travel, an itch I have to this day. Now, to get back and visit once again . . . Thank all of you for bringing a big smile to my face as I relive this most special part of my life.


01/31/15 07:15 AM #99    

Ted Green (1962)


01/31/15 07:27 AM #100    

Ted Green (1962)

thanks for the info about how to post pics. I now realize i should had wrtten some text first, then uploaded the pic. What i just posted was Mr Hervey blowing sax at that school dance, and me looking surprised. Sue, sorry to hear he (apprently?) came on to you. Of course, you were super-cute, but that is no excuse for dirty-old-manism.

Lynn Thompson its great to hear from you....and all your recollections. I dont suppose you know where your plas J. Anglmeyer, Janet Peart or Caorl Muir  are these days? Carol and her sister were breifly in our band. She was very cool, and went on to Univ of Hawaii. And Janet, if you are out there, i am really sorry for my behavior during my last semester. Peer pressure....

Here's another pic. Me with my hoody friends Bill Crowell and Richard Kaufman (i was seated, hence tha vast difference in height...). I have been in touch with Bill's kid sister in recent years.


01/31/15 07:37 AM #101    

Ted Green (1962)

speaking of the girl's dorm, here's a pic Claudia  gave me (from 1961?). Unfortunately, no one look very good in this particuar shot. I mean, y'all looked better in real life.

And for you guys my age or older, here is beautiful Sharon DaSilva. Mike Nicolay made this frame, I think. Hard to believe I actually dated this Goddess! Word reached me that the Colvin Bres. were gonna beat me up because I was dating above my age and social status (someone has to enforce teenage norms & unwritten rules, right?) 

 

 


01/31/15 07:41 AM #102    

David Baldwin (1961)

Hey Ted... Check out the Sexaphone picture....  oops!  You played righthanded not left... Pic is reversed!


01/31/15 01:44 PM #103    

David Baldwin (1961)

Security clearance has been given by Ted for me to post a side note to the Summer of 1960.  As mentioned in previous posts, the Silvertones were in Tague several times early in the summer to play gigs at the Officer's Club.  We all stayed with various dorm students at their various homes on the post.  I stayed with Ron Johnson and his family.  Great time with the Johnsons.

Ron's dad, Capt. Johnson, invited Ron and me to accompany him on an official military venture he had on the east coast of Korea.  We traveled there by military jeep...  just we three for five or six days!  His dad had some business there at a military outpost of some sort and we went along.  The ride in a military jeep was really wild.  We traversed some extremely rugged mountains with twisty roads on the very edge of the mountain sides.  Kinda like you would see in a "white knuckle" movie spectacle!  I saw (and swam at) some of the most beautiful beaches I have ever seen while on that trip.  Just fantastic.  The name of the town was Pohang.  Ron and I polished off over two dozen bottles of San Miguel beer one night on that trip.  That was the sickest I've had ever been and damn hung over the next morning.  I guess we all had to try out the Far East beers at least once...right?  Ron's dad managed to mire the jeep in sand at one of the beeches but with some pushing, pulling, and digging, we managed to beat the incoming tide and keep the jeep dry for the return trip to Tague.  Great trip!

The other venture Ted and I have been discussing (on the side) was a climb he and I took up Pukansan (a mountain spelled somewhat like that....kinda north of Seoul as I recall - couldn't be too far north could it?).  I think there were five of us.  Enroute to the top we encountered a  Budhist (?) Temple and toured through and around it.  I recall all kinds of wooden bell-like things hanging everywhere.  Ted, help me with the climbers...  Jim Danisch, Russell Jenna, you, me, and who was the fifth?  There were some great views from high atop that mountain.

 

 

 

 


01/31/15 01:59 PM #104    

Ted Green (1962)

here is the famous mountain climb of the Silvertones band (I took the pic). Well, Kaufman wasn't in the band. With Dave B in the black shirt, we see Russ Jenna and Jim Danisch. Jim's brother Lee rigged up vibrato eletronics for our guitars, so we could sound like Duane Eddy. (Lee went on to MIT and became an engineering genius. He stayed with me once in Maine 4-5 years ago)


02/01/15 05:15 AM #105    

Susan Scott (Weinsheimer) (1962)

Ted we all love you - STOP APOLOGIZING for yourself. 50 years was a loooonnnnggg time ago 


02/01/15 07:17 AM #106    

David Baldwin (1961)

Ha....  Yes indeed!  Great pic, Ted.  It looks like it was a more challenging climb than I recall.  Was I packin' on that trip?  Were we worried about bears, mountain lions, or moose?

 

 


02/01/15 01:19 PM #107    

Ted Green (1962)

OK Sue, no more amends...I will let go of the past forever! 

Still, here is a snapshot of Seniors when I was a Junior (yearbook staff? Looks too big for that...).

And here's one of Wayne Sigleo and me playing in the (former imperial) Japanese capitol bulding in Seoul. It was of course out of bounds...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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